Monday, November 13, 2006

God vs Science

The most recent Time magazine has an interesting article about God vs Science. Dominic and I talk about this alot. He has lost his faith some time ago. I cling to mine by a thread. To me the bottom line, the statement, the belief that stops him cold is always this. "If there is no Heaven, No God, then you're telling me Jenn and Ivan will never see Lucas again and I cannot sleep at night if that is true" and he has nothing to say to me.
I am well aware of how very precious this life is. You dont get a second chance. Every moment is all we get. I know this. But there just has to be something bigger than us.

3 comments:

Balancing Act; Jenn said...

Sometimes I scare myself with how big I think. I worry myself to tears over death and dying and then I pull myself back in and pray to God. Literally, stop my thinking, the thinking that scares me, the wonder about what it's all about, and I pray. I don't force myself to pray ever, it comes naturally. And I've asked myself before, why do I pray? And I always have an answer, my answer is always the same; because I believe in life after death. I believe in God and the thing that has made my belief so much stronger, has been what you talk about; the death of my son, Lucas.

So no matter what is true or not true in that book I talked about on my blog, the one thing that I KNOW is that God exists. That there IS something bigger than all of us. We are so small. When we die, we become more beautiful, more full, and we find what has been lost, whatever that is to us. For me, like a magnet reeling towards it's mate, will be Lucas, waiting, holding out his hand for me.

The fact that you and Dom recognize even that, tells me you do have some faith, and all it takes is that thimble full. At least that's what I think. If you talk to God in your head, I think it means you truly believe he is there, listening.

I read something my MIL gave me a couple of weeks ago and surprise of all surprises, it made me cry and really rattled something inside me. It said that God never intended for there to be death and that when a baby or child dies, their spirits find something different than we do as adults, they do become larger than they were in life (not literally, figuratively) and more than they were, more than they knew, just all encompassing full of joy; that type of thing. I don't know about all that. It sounds good, it touched something in me, but I must admit, I'm not 100% sure it's right.

You two (and especially Dominic) just get it and I thank you and appreciate it more than you could ever know. More than I could ever express to you. It means so much. Oddly, our faith became stronger when Lucas died. For others, it became weaker when he died. I still ask why. I'm still angry. But I still believe. And all this to say, that is the bottom line. I don't know why, but I do. I just do.

I am sending all of my love all the way across the country in big hugs.

Jenn

Seven Star Hand said...
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Seven Star Hand said...

Hello Tammy and all,

Here's my two bits on this intractable debate. Hope you and others can appreciate my efforts to provide a key to a true solution for humanity's seemingly never-ending cycle of struggle and despair.

Analyzing the Creator Debate

Did you ever consider that atheism arose because certain people saw that religious characterizations about the nature of an omnipotent "God" were seriously flawed and then concluded that religion and the Creator were the same things? This is the exact same conclusion at the base of religious beliefs; namely that the Creator and religion are inseparable. Consequently, both atheists and religious followers are arguing over a flawed assumption without considering that other possibilities negate the common core conclusion of both groups. These arguments are actually over religion and whether it represents a reliable model of reality. The answer to this question is of course not. Religion is not only flawed, it is purposely deceptive! Though atheists are certainly sincere in their conclusions, the fact remains that they and religious followers are locked in a debate that cannot be won by either side because both base their positions upon whether the same flawed premise is the truth. In order for this debate to conclude with a truthful answer, a greater level of discernment is required.

One apt clarifying question is, if someone tells lies about you, does that negate you or make you a liar or a lie? Certainly, the image cast about you would be a false one, but that is their image, not the real you. Consequently, faulty religious assertions about the Creator of this universe do not negate the existence of a Creator. Considering the possibility that this universe is not by chance leaves the door open to how it arose, which leads us to seek what could have created and maintained it. Since neither religion nor science has yet adequately answered this question, it is safe to conclude that those who argue about the Creator based on either are most certainly wrong about one or more aspects. Therefore, another point of view and additional knowledge are required.

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